标题: 中媒罕见报道：斯大林金日成发动朝战 [打印本页]
作者: big_jackass 时间: 2010-6-24 06:06 标题: 中媒罕见报道：斯大林金日成发动朝战
来源：联合早报
中国官方媒体日前报道说，朝鲜战争(韩国称6.25战争或韩国战争)是由斯大林和金日成发动，他们一个希望在韩半岛建立亲苏政权，一个希望统一朝鲜。
中国《环球时报》的英文版《Global Times》17日援引冷战时期国际历史专家、华东师范大学教授沈志华的话作出了上述报道。沈志华基于前苏联解体后公开的秘密文件，多年研究朝鲜战争爆发的原因。
沈志华在接受采访时说：“金日成一直要求斯大林同意入侵南韩，斯大林为了防止与美国关系恶化，始终表示拒绝，但1950年1月末却突然改变了主意。那年4月，斯大林把金日成叫到莫斯科进行了秘密会谈，接受了南侵计划。”
沈志华说：“金日成在会谈时提出自己的看法，他说‘即使战争爆发，美国也不会介入。即使介入，时间上也来不及。’对此，斯大林虽然认可，但表示如果美国介入，苏联不会参战。这样把军事介入的责任推给了中国。”
沈志华还说：“1950年5月13日，金日成来到北京，向中国通报苏联已同意的消息，要求中国也同意南侵计划。将信将疑的毛泽东通过苏联驻华大使确认斯大林的立场，并决定一旦美国介入，将派中共军队支援北韩。”
就当初反对南侵的斯大林变卦的原因，沈志华分析说：“是因为1949年中华人民共和国成立后，苏联必须放弃对中国境内长春铁路的所有权和对大连港的30年租借权。”正因为此，苏联要在拥有3个太平洋不冻港的韩半岛建立亲苏政权，作为控制远东地区的桥头堡。
中国媒体称朝鲜战争起因在于北韩和苏联，是不同寻常的事。在过去，中国的教科书上一直没有明确记述朝鲜战争的起因，中国人普遍认为朝鲜战争是和美国结盟的南韩发动的。
（作者系朝鲜日报驻北京特派记者崔有植）
作者: 黄河水 时间: 2010-6-24 08:48
只有把真相告诉人民，才能认清金日成和毛泽东这两个独裁者的真面目。
谚语说：纸里包不住火，雪里埋不住死人。
真相是迟早会大白于天下的。
作者: qdpan 时间: 2010-6-24 08:56 标题: 中国《环球时报》的英文版《Global Times》
为什么又是英文版？
作者: accessdiver 时间: 2010-6-24 09:21
找到2篇相关报道 Soviet interests drew China into Korean War
从标题看是斯大林匪帮将中国拖入朝鲜战争, 确实不是官府所说的保家卫国.
还有一篇的标题也很搞笑 Soviet machinations at root of Korean War 是说韩战刚开始生根还没发芽时苏联就在搞阴谋诡计?
http://opinion.globaltimes.cn/commentary/2010-06/542512.html http://opinion.globaltimes.cn/commentary/2010-06/542920.html 正在看, 沈志华讲得很圆滑
韩国来源 http://rki.kbs.co.kr/english/news/news_In_detail.htm?No=73416
[ 本帖最后由 accessdiver 于 2010-6-24 10:43 编辑 ]
作者: simonliu751 时间: 2010-6-24 09:44
环球时报英文版啊，那跟没说一样，中国人才不会去看呢
作者: zhaochaojiu 时间: 2010-6-24 10:04
本来就是。
作者: accessdiver 时间: 2010-6-24 10:13
下面这段与中文内容对应 Kim Il-sung kept asking for Stalin and Mao Zedong's approval to use force to take South Korea. But at first both demurred Kim's plan, as the Soviet Union didn't want to aggravate tensions with the US, and China was concentrating on its own reunification. We can find evidence for this in the disclosed archive materials from former Soviet Union and China. But in late January 1950, Stalin suddenly changed his mind and agreed to Kim's plan to undertake military operations against South Korea. He also called Kim to Moscow for secret talks. In the April talks, Stalin gave final approval to Kim's plan to start the war. Stalin agreed to Kim's estimate that the US would decline to or not have enough time to intervene in the war. But during the talks, Stalin repeatedly emphasized that Mao's opinion on the plan must be solicited and the war could not be carried out without the CPC's agreement because Mao had a very deep understanding of issues in the East, and in case of US intervention, the Soviet Union would not come forward to assist North Korea, so Kim could only turn to China for assistance. On May 13, 1950, Kim went to Beijing to solicit Mao's opinion. Mao was suspicious of the claim that Moscow had already approved North Korea's plan, so he requested the Soviet ambassador Nikolai Roshchin to confirm it with Stalin. Stalin answered that he had approved Kim's plan, but if China did not agree, they should discuss the issue again and the final decision should be made by the Chinese and North Koreans themselves. Thus Mao had no choice but to agree to the common position of Moscow and Pyongyang, and said that if the US entered the war, China would send its own armies to assist North Korea, and armies could be transferred to the China-Korea border right away. Based on the above materials, the launching of the Korean War was originally Moscow's and Pyongyang's idea, but Stalin managed to foist responsibility on Mao
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作者: pig927 时间: 2010-6-24 10:18
对外卖B，对内装B!
作者: 斯莱普尼尔 时间: 2010-6-24 10:28
这是个信号，表明对即将到来的南北冲突，中共不会再坚定的站在北方一边了。换言之，南韩米帝，你们放手干吧，我旁观。
作者: accessdiver 时间: 2010-6-24 10:28
从官府的中E文报道的差别对待来看, 深感要学好E文!
Stalin telegrammed Kim and asked him to go to Moscow to discuss his plan. Kim convinced Stalin that the US wouldn't intervene, or at least would not be able to, so Stalin approved Kim's plan. So Kim launched the war on June 25, 1950.
[ 本帖最后由 accessdiver 于 2010-6-24 10:35 编辑 ]
作者: big_jackass 时间: 2010-6-24 10:33 标题: 回复 3# qdpan 的帖子
土匪认为中国人和朝鲜人不懂英文。
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